Willie Nelson ku kiganiro ku ntwaro: "Imbunda nyinshi ... abaturage ntibagomba kugira izo ... izo ni izo gukoreshwa mu gisirikare"

Uyu mugoroba saa tatu z'ijoro, Piers Morgan azicarana n'umuhanzi w'icyamamare akaba n'umwanditsi w'indirimbo Willie Nelson mu kiganiro cyihariye kizaba gikubiyemo ibintu byose kuva kuri marijuana kugeza kuri politiki.
Nyuma y'ibyumweru bibiri amatora yo mu 2012 arangiye, Nielsen yemeye ko atagiye mu matora, ariko yishimiye amahitamo Amerika yafashe:
“Nishimiye ko (Barack Obama) yongeye gutorwa. Ndatekereza ko afite ibintu byinshi bifitiye akamaro ibyo anyuramo. Abagore bizera ibyo avuga. Abirabura n'Abanya-Hispanic n'Abanya-Hispanic n'Abanya-Hispanic n'abagore. Niba ufite ibyo bintu bitatu, uzatsinda.” Ndatekereza ko Obama azatsinda, nta yandi majwi akeneye, yamaze kubikora.”
Amezi atanu nyuma y'isabukuru ye y'imyaka 80, uyu mugabo ufite alubumu zisaga 60 muri studio yavuze ko yakuriye mu mbunda kandi ko nta kibazo yagize cyo guhiga. Ariko, mu bitekerezo bye, imbunda zikomeye ni ikiganiro gitandukanye rwose:
“Sinzi icyo nzakora n'imbunda ishobora kurasa inshuro 100,” Nelson yabwiye umunyamakuru wa “Piers Morgan Tonight.” Sinemeranya nabyo. Ndatekereza ko bikwiye kugenzurwa cyane. Ndatekereza ko imbunda nyinshi - nta mpamvu y'uko abasivili bazigira. Izo ni iz'igisirikare.”
Reba iyi videwo wumve ikiganiro n'umuntu utavuga rumwe n'ishyaka runaka rya politiki, kimwe mu byatumye, nk'uko Groucho Marx yabivuze, “Sinshaka kuba mu itsinda iryo ari ryo ryose nshobora kwinjiramo.” -- » kuri Twitter Kurikira Piers Morgan Tonight
Nasomye inyandiko zisa n'aho zigereranya kugenzura imbunda, igihe cyo gutegereza, kugenzura amakuru y'inyuma, no gukuraho intwaro za "gisirikare" n'amasasu n'amasasu 30 kugeza ku 100 nk'uko biteganywa n'Itegeko Nshinga rya Kabiri. Yego, abantu benshi bafite uburenganzira bwo gutunga imbunda (atari imbunda yo gutera), ariko ubwo burenganzira bufite akanyenyeri ko kuvuga ko abantu "bujuje ibisabwa" gusa (soma neza, batari abanyabyaha, kandi batojwe neza) ari bo bashobora gukoresha ubwo burenganzira. Niba intwaro zo mu rwego rwa gisirikare zibujijwe, kuki abashyigikiye imbunda batabona bumva ko uburenganzira bwabo bwo gutwara intwaro buri mu kaga. Abantu bafite uburenganzira bwo gutwara "intwaro" zitari imbunda nini, bazookas, mortiers, nibindi. Ibiganiro hano bigomba kuba bikuze bihagije ku buryo bamenya ikibazo cyo kwiyongera kw'imbunda mu ntoki zitari zo. Intambwe zo kwemeza ko abantu bujuje ibisabwa ari bo bonyine bafite uburenganzira bwo kubona imbunda ntabwo zigereranya "ihindurwa ry'Itegeko Nshinga rya Kabiri" kurusha amategeko agenga uburenganzira bwo gutunga no gutwara imodoka. Nta muntu wujuje ibisabwa wangiwe uruhushya rwo gutwara cyangwa gutunga imodoka kubera inzira isabwa kugira no gutwara. Reka Itegeko Nshinga rya Kabiri rifate akaruhuko - an Umubare munini w’abanyamuryango ba NRA bashyigikiye igenzura rikomeye ku gutunga imbunda. Nta n'umwe muri abo bantu ubona "abakandamiza abazimu" babambura uburenganzira bwabo nkuko mubibona.
Tom J: Abakoresha ibiyobyabwenge bose si ko bateye isoni nka Willie. Ntabwo utora kandi ntubyinubira (ibi ni kuva mu matora y'inzego z'ibanze kugeza ku muyobozi wa leta).
biteye isoni? Ndabasabye musobanure. Birumvikana ko nta kibazo mufite cyo kuba anywa itabi. Yavuze ko abantu bagomba kwemererwa gutunga imbunda. Keretse niba mutangiye kuvuga ku mbunda zikoresha ikoranabuhanga. Nta mpamvu y'uko abaturage bazigira. biteye isoni?
Nta n'isasu na rimwe ryarashwe muri New York City, Oak City, ni bangahe banywaga itabi igihe ibisasu byaturitswaga, cyangwa izo ndege zagwaga kuri izo nyubako! Ikibazo kiri kuri nyirazo si imbunda, gukoresha intwaro za gisirikare mu kwica cyangwa kwitabira gukoresha izo ntwaro mu kwica bigomba kuba igihano cy'urupfu, niba umuntu afashwe nk'umusazi, bigomba gukorwa kugeza igihe compton abonetse mu mutwe hanyuma ibyo birangiye, ugomba kumara ubuzima bwawe bwose muri gereza ukajugunya imfunguzo!!!!!!!!!!!!
Tubwire igihe uheruka gukandamizwa kandi ukeneye imbunda yo kuyikosora. Bisa n'inkuru ishimishije.
Iyo ubayeho igihe kirekire kurusha femtosecond, ku rwego rw'isi, uhura n'agahato. Ariko, ruswa imwe ntabwo ari iy'ubumaji kandi isa n'itsindwa ribabaje kurusha izindi. Mu by'ukuri, ni nde ukeneye gushaka ibiryo? Twese dupfukame dutere imbuto. Abanzi bashobora kororoka uko tugenda; uko tubyibuha kandi tukanywa icyatsi kibisi buhoro buhoro. Aha, nta rwango nyakuri ruri hagati yanjye, igiti, na shebuja; ifarashi inaniwe. Nta mpamvu yo kwidamararira ubu. Aho itekereza, ubwisanzure bwayo burimo kuva amaraso. Rero nywa itabi niba uyibona, cyane cyane niba utayibona - nubwo yaba ari umuvuduko. Niba ifarashi igomba gutera ibiti, noneho ushobora kumenya ingano y'ibiti ifarashi izatera.
Wow…Nanjye nifuzaga gutanga ibisubizo byiza. Thor, muri rusange, ndemeranya nawe. Ni ko bimeze no ku mategeko (kugeza ubu). N'abashinze umuryango wacu, bari bazi ko, cyane cyane nyuma yo kurwana n'igihugu gikomeye cyane n'igisirikare ku Isi icyo gihe, abaturage bagombaga guhora bashobora kwirwanaho mu gihe byaba byongeye kubaho.
Imbunda cyangwa indi ntwaro iyo ari yo yose ni ngombwa kugira ngo umuntu yirinde iyo atewe. Ku bwanjye sintekereza ko hakwiye kubaho amategeko mu gihe kizaza yerekeye imbunda cyangwa izindi ntwaro zishobora kuba zihari cyangwa zitahari.
Ubu, numva mfite icyifuzo cyo kugira icyo mvuga ku bandi babikoze cyane.1) helio.- Uko bigaragara, ntabwo wigeze ugenzurwa na IRS!, 2) Buzz - ntabwo wabonye amafaranga? Birababaje cyane! na 3) Terrance.- Mbega ubuhanga buhanitse! Ikintu kimwe navuga ni uko nshaka igitutu cya S*0) Uri kunywa itabi! Ndashaka bimwe rwose! Kandi ntabwo byangiriye akamaro. Ndashaka no kubitera.
Ese ndakeka ko wemera ko abantu batuye inyuma y’igitambaro cy’icyuma bakandamizwa? Bagerageje kwigomeka bitwaje intwaro mu myaka ya za 40 na 50 - nta handi bari bafite ho kujya uretse gupfa. Urukuta rwa Berlin rwasenyutse atari ku mbunda, ahubwo ku mbaraga z’abaturage - imyigaragambyo y’amahoro yo kwamagana igihugu. Soma Gandhi.
Urukuta ntirwaguye kubera imbunda? Birumvikana ko atari byo! Nta muturage w’Abasoviyeti ufite imbunda! Politiki ikomeye yo kugenzura imbunda irabibuza. Ntabwo ari uko byabujije ibyaha byateguwe by’Uburusiya gutunga imbunda. Igitangaje ni uko abakora ibyaha batita ku mategeko.
Nanone, urukuta ntirwaguye kubera “imyigaragambyo y’amahoro.” Urukuta rwaguye kubera ko Abasoviyeti bananiwe. Nta mafaranga cyangwa ububasha bari bafite bwo kugenzura ubwami bwabo, byatumye abaturage, nubwo bambuwe intwaro, bashobora kwigomeka neza.
Byongeye kandi, ndizera ko Gandhi yigeze kuvuga ati: “Mu bibi byinshi byakozwe n’ubutegetsi bw’Abongereza mu Buhinde, amateka azafata kwamburwa imbunda mu gihugu cyose nk’ikintu kibi cyane.”
@algol Kuba *hari* inyeshyamba zakoreshejwe intwaro zananiwe ubwabyo ntibisobanura ko igitekerezo cy’inyeshyamba zakoreshejwe intwaro ari amahitamo mabi. Habayeho kandi inyeshyamba nyinshi zakoreshejwe intwaro zatsinze. Ntugahitemo inkuru zishyigikira uruhande rutoranyije mbere y’uko rutoranywa, kuko hari inkuru nyinshi zishyigikira ibyo urundi ruhande ruvuga.
@Buzz: Inkuru yawe ivuga ku ihohoterwa ry’uburenganzira bw’intwaro ku giti cyayo ntabwo ivuguruza ibivugwa ko gutunga imbunda byaba igikoresho cyiza cyangwa gifite akamaro mu kurwanya ihohoterwa rishobora guterwa na leta (ni yo mpamvu yose yatumye Itegeko Nshinga rya 2 rishyirwa mu mushinga w’itegeko — — kuko abaturage bari barangije imyigaragambyo y’intwaro irwanya ihohoterwa rya leta).
“Imbunda zihari kugira ngo zirinde abantu abakandamiza”. Yewe mugabo, iyi ngingo si uko Itegeko Nshinga rya Kabiri ryanditswe - rivuga ku mitwe yitwaje intwaro nziza - shakisha imitwe yitwaje intwaro mu nkoranyamagambo ntuzasangamo amatsinda y’abantu biyita ko ari yo ngoro ya nyuma y’ubwisanzure. Niba leta ishaka kugukoresha imbaraga, Winnie wawe muto azakubitwa nk’umubu. Ba nyamuneka. Ndizera ko ufite icyumba cy’inyuma gifite ibiryo n’amazi bihagije mu gihe cy’amezi 6 kugira ngo ubashe “kurwanya” igitugu”. Guverinoma yahoraga ari umuhanga mu gutera abantu idakoresheje imbaraga, none kuki bagomba kwibabaza? . Nyoherereza aderesi yawe kugira ngo mbashe kubana nawe amezi make kandi numve ndinzwe iyo leta iteye igihugu cyanjye.
"Impaka" z'uko imbunda zitagira icyo zimara mu kurwanya ubutegetsi bw'igitugu bwa leta/igisirikare si zo. Reba ibirimo kubera muri Libiya - AK47 n'amapikipiki arwanya indege, ibisasu, ibimodoka by'intambara n'ingabo zitandukanye za leta ... hanyuma urebe abatsinzwe. Intego yo kwambura abaturage intwaro ni imwe n'iya kera - nta buryo nyabwo bwo kurwanya leta buhari.
Impamvu imwe rukumbi yatumye inyeshyamba za Tom zitsinda muri Libiya ni uko zafashijwe n'ishyirahamwe ry'Abanyamerika n'Abanyaburayi bakoresheje indege zabo zigezweho n'ingabo zabo kugira ngo bashyire mu bikorwa agace kabujijwe kuguruka ku ngabo zirwanira mu kirere nke cyane nka Kadhafi. Inyeshyamba kandi zabonye imbunda nyinshi zirasa roketi n'intwaro za gisirikare ziturutse hanze. None se, ni nde uzafasha abantu bitwaje intwaro baturutse hanze batekereza ko umunsi umwe bashobora guhagurukira guverinoma ya Amerika?
Yego, DOPE izakugirira ibintu byiza cyane. Igufasha gusohora alubumu 60 zo muri studio (ibi bikaba ari ibintu bidasanzwe), kwandika umuziki mwiza (ibyo Joe atashobora gukora), no kuba umuntu mwiza gusa.
Ariko Tom J.! Sinitaye ku mpamvu uyu musaza w’umugome adatora. Kuki abona ko hari umuntu umwitaho? Sinigeze nsoma iyo nkuru cyangwa ngo ndebe videwo, kandi sinteganya kubikora. Ndirinda iyi POS uko bishoboka kose.
Wenda wagombye kugerageza Tom, maze turebe niba hari ikintu cy'ubwenge kiva mu kanwa ke. Birumvikana ko kutanywa itabi ntacyo bizagufasha.
Mu by'ukuri ntabwo nitaye ku cyo Willie Nelson atekereza ku bijyanye no kugenzura imbunda! Ni iki gituma igitekerezo cye kiruta icyanjye?
Willie, ufite isoni! Abantu babarirwa muri za miriyoni ku isi yose batanga ubuzima bwabo buri munsi kugira ngo twe Abanyamerika dufate amahitamo nk'ay'ukuri.
Urashaka kuvuga icyo utekereza? Ufite isoni zo gukoresha uburenganzira yahawe n'Imana mu bikorwa.
Niba guverinoma ishobora gukuraho itegeko rya kabiri.. ubwo itegeko rya mbere ntacyo rivuze.. ni ingenzi ku bitekerezo bye cyangwa iby'undi wese.
Yego – ikimenyetso cya nyuma NRA ikunda nacyo gikunda cyane intwaro zikoresha ikoranabuhanga. Yakoresheje imwe, yica uwahoze ari umugore we, umukobwa we, umukunzi w'umukobwa we n'umwana wabo w'amezi 16.
Ikinyamakuru cyavuze ko uwahoze ari umusirikare w’ingabo za gisirikare JT Ready yiyamamariza kuba sheriff wa Pinar County, akaba ari umwe mu bagize gahunda ya US Border Guard and Minuteman, yise itsinda rirwanya abinjira n’abasohoka mu buryo butemewe n’amategeko. Abarizwa kandi mu mutwe w’ishyaka ry’abasosiyalisiti, umuryango ufite ibitekerezo by’abazungu ku butegetsi.
None se ntashobora kwica abo bantu akoresheje intwaro zitagira ikoranabuhanga? Yego… yashoboraga kubica akoresheje icyuma. Ese natwe tugomba guhagarika ibyuma? Abagizi ba nabi barica, ntabwo ari imbunda. Bashobora kubikora bakoresheje ikintu icyo ari cyo cyose.
Imbunda ntizikora neza nk'imbunda, kandi intwaro zikoresha uburyo bwa semi-automatic zikora neza cyane mu kwica abantu kurusha revolvers. Guhagarika intwaro zikoresha uburyo bwa semi-automatic ni igikorwa giteye imbere cyane abatora bashobora gukora kugira ngo bagabanye kumenyekana kw'abicanyi batagira ubwenge.
Impaka mbi Shane. Abanyabwoba bica abantu benshi bakunda intwaro zikoresha icyuma. Bagomba kwegera uwahohotewe no kumurwanya. Suzuma amateka y'abanze kwishyira mu mwanya wabo bakoraga ibyo bikorwa bibi. Intwaro zikoresha icyuma zituma byoroha.
Ni mu rugero rungana iki James Holmes ashobora kugera muri sinema yo muri Colorado afite imbunda idakoresha ikoranabuhanga? Utekereza ko abantu bangahe bazapfa?
Nta mpamvu ifatika ihari yo gutunga intwaro zikoresha ikoranabuhanga, kandi niba kuzihagarika bivuze ko abantu bake bazapfa muri ayo masasu adasanzwe, kuzihagarika ni ikintu gikwiye gukorwa.
Yego, nzi ko imbunda zitica abantu, abantu bica abantu, ariko uburenganzira bwacu bwo gutunga imbunda zikoresha ikoranabuhanga ntabwo ari ingenzi nk'ubuzima bwacu.
@pritka: Semi-Auto: Imbunda irasa isasu rimwe kuri buri gisasu ikurura kandi ikoresha uburyo bumwe na bumwe bwo kwishyuza (ikoreshwa na recoil, ikoreshwa na gazi, cyangwa ikoreshwa na lisansi). Revolvers ebyiri (ikoreshwa na risansi nyinshi zigezweho) ni semi-automatic. Byongeye kandi, revolvers zigezweho zikunze kuba zifite amasasu manini, agaragaza ko zigira akamaro mu kurwanya ibisasu bidafite intwaro ku ntera ngufi. "Assault Rifles" zikoreshwa mu kurasa imbunda, kandi iyo amasasu ya gisirikare akoreshejwe, agenewe kurasa ibisasu biri ku ntera ndende. Ibi bigabanya ubwicanyi bwazo bitewe n'uko amasasu adahinduka.
Sherlock Holmes nta ntwaro zikora ku buryo bwikora afite. Afite imbunda ya AR-15 ya gisivili, imbunda ya semi-automatic ya .223 caliber, n'ikinyamakuru cya Century cy'amasasu 100. Iki kinyamakuru cy'amasasu 100 mu by'ukuri kigabanya ubushobozi bwe ugereranije n'ikinyamakuru gisanzwe cy'amasasu 20 cyangwa 30 kuko icyiswe nabi cyane kibura nyuma y'amasasu 17.
Nanone ndashaka gutekereza ko aramutse afite imbunda isanzwe, iryo sasu ntiryari kwica cyane. Ubwa mbere, kurasa iyi mbunda mu buryo bwikora byongera amahirwe yo gucika, cyane cyane niba ikinyamakuru gifite inenge. Icya kabiri, aramutse afatiwe ku ruziga rumwe n’urwa mbere (17), kurasa kwe mu buryo buhoraho bizaba munsi y’isegonda rimwe; igihe gito cyane cyo kuyitwara.
Mu by’ukuri Holmes ni umuswa cyane ku bijyanye n’imbunda ye niba azahitana abantu benshi. Buri wese ahora atinya imbunda z’umukara, ariko isasu rya .223 si isasu rishobora kwica cyane. Akenshi bisaba amasasu menshi kugira ngo wice intego ingana n’iy’umuntu. Ariko, Holmes afite kandi imbunda ya 12-gauge pump-action shot ifite 00 buckshot, hamwe na pistol 2 ya Colt M1911 ifite 0.45 ACP. Izi ndwara zombi zishobora gutera gucika cyane no kubura amaraso ukoresheje isasu rimwe gusa ryiza, mu gihe isasu rya 12-gauge 00-gauge rishobora kurasa amasasu 8 cyangwa 9, buri imwe ingana n’isasu rya .33 pistol.
Mu by’ukuri, igitekerezo cyose ni akajagari. Yagiye muri sinema, asohora umwotsi, arasa amasasu make mu kirere, hanyuma atangira igitero. Ni intego ifunguye mu masegonda 3 kugeza kuri 5; afite umwanya uhagije wo gukurura intwaro, kongeramo ibikoresho nibiba ngombwa, gufata icyuma gipima, no gukurura isasu. Bigaragara ko igice cyonyine "cy'ubwenge" cy'umugambi we ari ugutera agace abaturage bubahiriza amategeko babwiwe gukuramo intwaro.
Mwa baswa mwe, James Holmes ntiyigeze akoresha intwaro ikoresha ikoranabuhanga kandi ntiyigeze akoresha. Mbere yo kugerageza kubavuguruza, nyamuneka musobanukirwe ibintu bike. Iyo umuntu yongera kubahamagara amafoto 100 ya "clip", nahita nseka cyane ku buryo byabatera kugaragara nk'abaswa kandi batize. Nta kibazo mfite cyo kuganira kuri iki kibazo, ariko nibura nzakora ubushakashatsi ku ngingo zivuguruzanya mbere.
Ntushobora kugura intwaro zikoresha ikoranabuhanga muri Amerika, ahubwo ushobora kugura izikoresha ikoranabuhanga risanzwe gusa. AR-15, izwi cyane nka "imbunda yo mu bwoko bwa assault rifle" ifite imbaraga nyinshi, mu by'ukuri ni "ingufu nke", kandi ni calibre ya .223. Imbunda nyinshi z'impala zifite imbaraga nyinshi, urugero: calibre ya .270, .308 ni nyinshi cyane. Niba ugiye kwitotombera imbunda, gerageza gusobanukirwa ibi bibazo. Abantu benshi barwanya imbunda, badafite imbunda na gato, baba mu mujyi bareba Piers Morgan. Ufite igitekerezo cyawe, ariko kigire umuntu uzi amakuru.
Ndizera ko ugomba kwiga amategeko agenga imbunda. Ushobora kugura intwaro zikoresha ikoranabuhanga. Marume ni umwenegihugu w’ingabo zirwanira mu mazi kandi afite nyinshi. Mu by’ukuri ugomba gusinya ubuzima bwawe kugira ngo uzigire, ariko urabishobora.
Mike ari muri Utah kandi ku madolari 300 gusa ushobora kugura uruhushya rwo gutunga no kugura intwaro zikoresha ikoranabuhanga ryikora ku giti cyawe!
Uretse kuba bigoye gukora, guhindura imbunda ntoya ikoresha ikoranabuhanga rigezweho ni icyaha gikomeye. Ku bijyanye n'imbunda zo guhiga n'imbunda za gisirikare, hafi ya zose zikoreshwa mu mbunda zikomoka ku ntwaro za gisirikare. Imbunda ntoya ikoresha ikoranabuhanga rigezweho, zishobora kurasa inshuro 100 uko amateka ya gisirikare yaba ameze kose. Ukoresha imbaraga kuri buri sasu gusa.
Maze imyaka myinshi nkunda umuziki wa Willie, ariko sintekereza ko gukoresha urumogi na politiki ye atari amahitamo meza cyangwa ingero nziza.


Igihe cyo kohereza: 23 Nyakanga-2022