Manheru ano na9pm, Piers Morgan achagara pasi nemuimbi ane mukurumbira uye munyori wenziyo Willie Nelson kuti vabvunzurudzwe panguva yeruzhinji vachitarisa zvese kubva kumarijuana kusvika kune zvematongerwo enyika.
Mavhiki maviri mushure mesarudzo ya2012, Nielsen akabvuma kuti haana kuenda kunovhota, asi akafara nesarudzo yakaitwa neUS:
"Ndinofara kuti (Barack Obama) asarudzwazve. Ndinofunga kuti ane zvinhu zvakawanda zvinobatsira zvaari kusangana nazvo. Vakadzi vanotenda mune zvaari kutaura nezvazvo. Vatema nevaHispanic nevaHispanic nevaHispanic nevakadzi. Kana iwe nezvinhu zvitatu izvozvo, uchakunda." Ndinofunga kuti Obama achakunda, haadi imwe vhoti, atoisona."
Mwedzi mishanu mushure mekuzvarwa kwake kwemakore makumi masere, murume ane maalbum ekustudio anopfuura makumi matanhatu akati akakurira achitsvaga pfuti uye haana dambudziko rekuvhima. Zvisinei, mumaonero ake, pfuti dzehondo dzine simba guru inhaurirano yakasiyana zvachose:
"Handizivi kuti ndichaitei nepfuti inogona kupfura ka100," Nelson akaudza mutori wenhau we "Piers Morgan Tonight". "Handibvumirani nazvo. Ndinofunga kuti zvinofanira kudzorwa zvakanyanya. Ndinofunga kuti pfuti dzakawanda - hapana chikonzero chekuti vanhuwo zvavo vave nadzo. Idzo ndedzemauto."
Tarisa vhidhiyo iyi unzwe kubvunzurudzwa nemunhu asingazivikanwe nebato rezvematongerwo enyika, chimwe chikonzero ndechekuti, sezvakataurwa naGroucho Marx, “Handidi kuva nhengo yekirabhu yandinogona kupinda.” -- » pa Twitter Tevedzera Piers Morgan Tonight
Ndakaverenga zvinyorwa zvinoita sekunge zvinoenzanisa kudzora pfuti, nguva yekumirira, kuongororwa kwenhoroondo, uye kubviswa kwezvombo zve "mauto" nemagazini nemabara makumi matatu kusvika zana pasi peChipiri Chibvumirano. Ehe, vanhu vazhinji vane kodzero yekuva nepfuti (kwete pfuti yekurwisa), asi kodzero iyoyo ine nyeredzi yekutaura kuti vanhu "vane hunyanzvi" chete (verenga nepfungwa dzakanaka, vasina mhosva, uye vakadzidziswa zvakanaka) ndivo vanogona kushandisa kodzero iyoyo. Kana zvombo zvemauto zvakarambidzwa, sei vatsigiri vepfuti vasingaoni vanganzwa kuti kodzero yavo yekutakura zvombo iri kutyisidzirwa. Vanhu vane kodzero yekutakura "zvombo" kunze kwepfuti dzemuchina, bazookas, mortars, nezvimwewo. Kukurukurirana pano kunofanira kunge kwakakura zvakakwana zvekuti vanoziva dambudziko rekuwanda kwepfuti mumaoko asina kunaka. Matanho ekuona kuti vanhu vane hunyanzvi chete ndivo vane mukana wekuwana pfuti haamiriri "Chipiri Chibvumirano chekudzoserwa" kupfuura mitemo inodzora kodzero yekuva nemotokari. Hapana munhu ane hunyanzvi akarambidzwa rezinesi rekutyaira kana muridzi wemotokari nekuda kwemaitiro anodiwa kuti ave nemotokari. Rega Chipiri Chibvumirano chimbomira - a ruzhinji rwenhengo dzeNRA dzinotsigira kudzora kwakasimba kwekuva nepfuti. Hapana kana mumwe wevanhu ava anoona "vadzvinyiriri vemweya" vachivatorera kodzero dzavo sezvamunoita imi.
Tom J: Havasi vese vanopindwa muropa nezvinodhaka vanonyadzisa saWillie. Hamuvhoti uye hamunyunyuti (izvi zvinobva pasarudzo dzemunharaunda kusvika kumutungamiri wenyika).
Zvinonyadzisa here? Ndapota tsanangura. Zviri pachena kuti hauna dambudziko naye pakusvuta. Akati vanhu vanofanira kubvumirwa kuva nepfuti. Kunze kwekunge watanga kutaura nezvepfuti dzinongoerekana dzashandiswa. Hapana chikonzero chekuti vagari vave nadzo. Zvinonyadzisa here?
Hapana kana pfuti imwe chete yakapfurwa muNYC, Oak City, vanhu vangani vakaputa mabhomba paakaputika, kana kuti ndege idzodzo dzakadonhera pazvivakwa izvozvo! Dambudziko riripo nemuridzi harisi pfuti, chero kushandisa zvombo zvehondo kubvisa hupenyu kana kutora chikamu mukushandiswa kwezvombo izvozvo kubvisa hupenyu kunofanira kuva mutongo werufu, kana munhu akawanikwa akapenga, zvinofanira kuitwa kusvika compton yawanikwa mupfungwa uye kana izvozvo zvaitika, unofanira kupedza hupenyu hwako hwese mujeri worasa makiyi!!!!!!!!!!!!
Ndapota tiudzei nguva yekupedzisira yamakabatwa mudzvinyiriro uye muchida pfuti yekugadzirisa. Zvinonzwika senyaya inonakidza.
Kana ukararama kwenguva yakareba kupfuura femtosecond, pachiyero chepasi rose, unosangana nekudzvinyirirwa. Zvisinei, humwe huori hauna mashiripiti uye hwakaita sekukundikana kunosuwisa kupfuura vamwe. Zvechokwadi, ndiani anofanira kutsvaga chikafu? Tose ngatipfugamei tidyare mbeu. Vavengi vanogona kubereka sezvatinofamba; sezvatinokora toputa sora zvishoma nezvishoma. Pano, hapana ruvengo rwechokwadi pakati pangu, muti, natenzi wedu; bhiza rakaneta. Hapana chikonzero chekugutsikana ikozvino. Parinotenda, rusununguko rwaro rwuri kubudawo ropa. Saka svuta kana ukachiona, kunyanya kana usingachioni - kunyangwe chiri chinhu chinopfungaira. Kana bhiza richifanirwa kukanda huni, unogona kuziva kuti bhiza richakanda huni hwakawanda sei.
Wow… ndaidawo kutaura nezvemhinduro dzakanaka. Thor, musimboti, ndinobvumirana newe. Ndizvo zvakafanana nemutemo (pari zvino). Ndizvo zvakaitawo Madzibaba edu ekutanga, avo vaiziva kuti, kunyanya mushure mekurwa nenyika ine simba nemauto pasi rose panguva iyoyo, vagari vaifanira kugara vachikwanisa kuzvidzivirira kana zvikaitika zvakare.
Pfuti kana chimwe chombo chinodiwa kuti munhu azvidzivirire kana akarwiswa. Ini pachangu handifungi kuti panofanira kuva nemitemo mune ramangwana pamusoro pepfuti kana chimwe chombo chingave chiripo kana chisipo.
Zvino, ndinonzwawo ndichimanikidzwa kutaura nezvevamwe vakaita izvi nerupo.1) helio.- Zviri pachena kuti, hauna kumbobvira waongororwa neIRS!, 2) Buzz - hauna kuona here mari yacho? Zvinosuwisa! uye 3) Terrance.- Hunhu hwakanaka! Chinhu chega chandinogona kutaura ndechekuti ndinoda S*0 pressure) Uri kusvuta!Ndinoda zvimwe! Uye hazvina kutsiva.Ndinodawo kuidyara.
Ndingafungidzira here kuti mungabvumirana kuti vanhu vanogara kuseri kweIron Curtain vanodzvinyirirwa? Vakaedza kupandukira nezvombo mumakore ekuma40 ne50 - vakanga vasina kwekuenda kunze kwekufira. Rusvingo rweBerlin rwakaputswa kwete nepfuti, asi nesimba revanhu - kuratidzira murunyararo vachirwisa nyika. Verenga Gandhi.
Rusvingo haruna kudonha nekuda kwepfuti? hongu kwete! Hapana mugari weSoviet ane pfuti!”Mitemo yakasimba yekudzora pfuti inodzivirira izvi. Kwete kuti yakamisa mhosva dzakarongwa dzeRussia kuti dzisave nepfuti. Zvinoshamisa kuti, vatadzi havana hanya nemutemo.
Uyewo, rusvingo haruna kudonha nekuda kwe "kuratidzira murunyararo." Rusvingo rwakadonha nekuti maSoviet akakundikana. Vakanga vasina mari yakakwana kana simba rekutonga umambo hwavo, izvo zvakaita kuti vanhu, pasinei nekubviswa zvombo, vagone kumukira zvinobudirira.
Uyezve, ndinotenda kuti Gandhi akamboti, "Pakati pezvakaipa zvakawanda zvehutongi hweBritain muIndia, nhoroondo ichaona kunyimwa pfuti kubva kunyika yese serima guru."
@algol Chokwadi chekuti *mamwe* mapoka evapanduki ane zvombo akakundikana hachiiti kuti pfungwa yekuti vapanduki vane zvombo ive sarudzo isiriyo. Kwavewo nemapoka akawanda evapanduki vane zvombo akabudirira. Usasarudze nyaya dzinotsigira rusaruro rwekusarudza, nekuti kune nyaya dzakawanda dzinotsigira zvinotaurwa nerimwe divi.
@Buzz: Nyaya yako pamusoro pekushungurudzwa kwekodzero dzezvombo nemunhu pachake hairatidzi kuti kutaura kwekuti kuva nepfuti kwaizova chishandiso chakanaka kana chinoshanda kurwisa kudzvinyirirwa kwehurumende (ndicho chikonzero chikuru chakaita kuti Chigadziro chechipiri chivepo mubhiri iri — — nekuti vanhu vakanga vachangobva kugumisa kupandukira hurumende nezvombo).
"Pfuti dziripo kudzivirira vanhu kubva kuvadzvinyiriri". Haiwa, pfungwa iyi haisi iyo yakanyorwa muSecond Amendment - inotaura nezvemauto ane zvombo zvakakwana - tsvaga mauto muduramazwi uye hapana pauchawana kutaurwa kwemapoka evanhu vanozviti ivo senhare yekupedzisira yerusununguko. Kana hurumende ichida kushandisa simba kukurwisa, Winnie wako mudiki acharohwa semhutu. Iva chaiye. Ndine chokwadi chekuti une imba yekuseri ine chikafu nemvura yakakwana kwemwedzi mitanhatu kuitira kuti ugone "kurwisa" hudzvanyiriri. Hurumende yagara iri nyanzvi pakurwisa vanhu pasina kushandisa simba, saka sei vachifanira kunetseka? . Ndokumbirawo munditumire kero yenyu kuitira kuti ndigare nemi kwemwedzi mishoma uye ndinzwe ndakachengetedzwa kana hurumende ikapinda munyika yangu.
"Nharo" yekuti pfuti hadzina simba pakurwisa hudzvanyiriri hwehurumende/mauto haisiyo yechokwadi. Ona zviri kuitika muLibya - maAK47 nemapickup ekurwisa majeti, mabhomba, matangi nemauto akasiyana-siyana ehurumende ... uye ona kuti ndiani ari kurasikirwa. Chinangwa chekutorera vanhu zvombo zvakafanana nekare - hapana nzira chaiyo yekurwisa hurumende.
Chikonzero chega chakaita kuti vapanduki vaTom vakunde muLibya ndechekuti vakabatsirwa nemubatanidzwa weUS/European wakashandisa ndege dzavo dzemazuva ano nemauto kuti vamanikidze nzvimbo isingabhururuke pamauto emuchadenga mashoma aGaddafi. Vapanduki vakawanawo zvombo zvakawanda zveroketi nezvombo zvehondo kubva kunze. Zvino, ndiani achabatsira vanhu vane pfuti vanobva kunze vanofunga kuti rimwe zuva vangazofanira kumukira hurumende yeUS?
Ehe, DOPE ichaita zvinhu zvikuru kwauri. Inokubvumira kuburitsa maalbum makumi matanhatu estudio (zvinova zvinopenga), kunyora mimhanzi yakanaka (izvo zvisina mumwe Joe anogona kuita), uye kungova munhu akanaka.
Zvekare, Tom J.!Handina basa nekuti sei murume uyu wekare asingavhote. Sei achifunga kuti pane ane hanya nezvaanoita? Handina kuverenga chinyorwa kana kuona vhidhiyo, uye handironge kuzviita. Ndinodzivisa POS iyi zvakanyanya sezvinobvira.
Pamwe unofanira kuedza, Tom, uye tichaona kana paine chinhu chakangwara chinobuda mumuromo make. Zviri pachena kuti kusasvuta hakuzokubatsiri.
Handina basa kuti Willie Nelson anofungei nezvekudzora pfuti! Chii chinoita kuti pfungwa dzake dzive dzakakosha kupfuura dzangu?
Zvinonyadzisa Willie! Mamiriyoni evanhu pasi rose vanozvipira hupenyu hwavo zuva nezuva kuti isu maAmerica tisatore sarudzo sezvadziri.
Unoreva kusarudza kutaura zviri pamoyo pako here? Unonyara naWillie nekushandisa kodzero dzake dzaakapihwa naMwari.
Kana hurumende ikakwanisa kubvisa Chigadziro chechipiri.. saka Chigadziro chekutanga hachina basa futi.. zvakakosha kune pfungwa dzake kana dzemumwe munhu.
Ehe - chiratidzo chekupedzisira chinofarirwa neNRA chinofarirawo zvombo zve automatic. Achishandisa chimwe, akauraya aimbova mudzimai wake, mwanasikana wake, mukomana wemwanasikana wake nemwana wavo ane mwedzi gumi nematanhatu.
Aimbove Marine JT Ready ari kukwikwidza musarudzo yesheriff wePinar County uye inhengo yeUS Border Guard and Minuteman Program, iyo inotsanangura seboka rinorwisa kupinda kwevanhu munyika zvisiri pamutemo, sekureva kweArizona Republic. Iye zvakare ndeweNational Socialist Movement, sangano rine maonero ekuti varungu ndivo vanonyanya kudzvinyirira, bepa racho rakadaro.
Saka haakwanise kuuraya vanhu ivavo nezvombo zvisiri zveotomatiki? Ehe…aigona kunge akavauraya nebanga. Tinofanirawo kurambidza mapanga here? Vanhu vakaipa vanouraya, kwete pfuti. Vanogona kuita izvi nechero chinhu.
Mapanga haashande zvakanaka sepfuti, uye zvombo zvinongoerekana zvaita otomatiki zvinotonyanya kushanda pakuuraya vanhu kupfuura mapfuti epfuti. Kurambidza zvombo zvinongoerekana zvaita otomatiki inzira inotorwa nevavhoti vane pfungwa dzakapinza mukuyedza kuderedza mukurumbira wevaurayi vakawanda vanopenga.
Nharo yakaipa Shane. Mambwende anoponda vanhu vazhinji anoda zvombo zvemagetsi. Anofanira kusvika akatarisana nemunhu anenge abatwa nebanga. Tarisa nhoroondo yevanhu vairamba zvinhu zvavo vachiita zvinhu izvi zvakaipa. Zvombo zvekurwisa zvinongoerekana zvava nyore.
James Holmes anogona kusvika papi mubhaisikopo reColorado nepfuti isingashandi otomatiki? Unofunga kuti vanhu vangani vachafa?
Hapana chikonzero chine musoro chekuti vanhuwo zvavo vave nezvombo zve automatic, uye kana kurambidzwa kwacho kuchireva kuti vanhu vashoma vachafa mukupfurwa uku, saka kurambidzwa kwacho ndicho chinhu chine musoro chekuita.
Ehe, ndinoziva kuti pfuti hadziuraye vanhu, vanhu vanouraya vanhu, asi kodzero yedu yekuva nepfuti dzinozvigadzira otomatiki haina kukosha sehupenyu hwedu.
@pritka: Semi-Auto: Pfuti inopfura bhora rimwe chete parinenge richidhonzwa uye inoshandisa imwe nzira yekuchaja otomatiki (inoshandiswa nekudzoreredza, inoshandiswa negasi, kana kuti inorwisa kaviri). Mapfuti maviri anoshandiswa kaviri (mazhinji emazuva ano) anoshandiswa otomatiki. Pamusoro pezvo, mapfuti emazuva ano anowanzo takura mabara makuru, ayo anoshanda kurwisa zvombo zvisina zvombo pamitsetse mipfupi. "Assault Rifles" dzinoshandiswa pakupfura pfuti uye, kana zvombo zvehondo zvikashandiswa, zvakagadzirirwa kurova zvombo zvine zvombo pamitsetse mirefu. Izvi zvinoderedza kuuraya kwadzo nekuda kwehunhu hwemabara husingachinjiki.
Sherlock Holmes haana zvombo zvinongoerekana zvaitika. Ane pfuti yerudzi rwechivanhu inonzi AR-15, pfuti yemhando ye .223 caliber semi-automatic, uye magazini yeCentury ine mapoinzi zana. Magazini ye100-round inoderedza kushanda kwayo zvichienzaniswa nemagazini ye20 kana 30-round yakajairwa nekuti magazini inozivikanwa zvisirizvo inomira mushure memapoinzi gumi nenomwe.
Ndingadawo kufunga kuti dai aive nepfuti yemoto yakasarudzwa, kupfura ikoko kwaisazouraya zvakanyanya. Chekutanga, kupfura otomatiki kwepfuti iyi kunowedzera mukana wekumhanya, kunyanya kana magazini yacho isina kunaka. Chechipiri, kana akabatwa padenderedzwa rimwe chete sepakutanga (17), kupfura kwake kwenguva refu kuchave kushoma pane sekondi; nguva shoma yekutsvaira chero ani zvake nayo.
Holmes ibenzi chairo panyaya yekusarudza pfuti yake kana achizokonzera kurasikirwa kukuru kwehupenyu hwevanhu. Munhu wese anogara achitya pfuti nhema, asi .223 haisi bara rinouraya zvakanyanya. Kazhinji zvinoda kupfura kakawanda kuti munhu auraye. Zvisinei, Holmes anewo pfuti ye12-gauge pump-action ine 00 buckshot, pamwe nepfuti yeColt M1911 semi-automatic ine 0.45 ACP. Matambudziko ese aya anogona kukonzera cavitation yakawanda uye kurasikirwa neropa nekupfura kamwe chete kwakanaka, nepo pfuti ye12-gauge 00-gauge ichipfura mabara masere kana mapfumbamwe, imwe neimwe yakaenzana ne .33 pistol round.
Kutaura zvazviri, pfungwa yacho yese haina kunaka. Akafamba achienda ku theatre, akaburitsa utsi, akapfura mabara mashoma mudenga, ndokuzotanga kurwisa. Anenge ari munhu anotarisirwa kupinda mumasekondi matatu kusvika mashanu; nguva yakakwana yekudhonza chombo, kurodhazve kana zvichidikanwa, kutora scope, uye kudhonza chibodzwa. Zvinoita sekuti chikamu chega "chakangwara" chechirongwa chake ndechekurwisa nzvimbo iyo vagari vanoteerera mutemo vakaudzwa kuti vabvise zvombo. Zvakanaka.
Imi mapenzi, James Holmes haasati amboshandisa uye haasati amboshandisa pfuti otomatiki. Musati maedza kuvapikisa, ndapota nzwisisai zvinhu zvishoma. Kana mumwe munhu akavati "ma" clips zana zvakare, ndingadai ndakapera simba ndichiseka zvekuti zvaizovaita kuti vanzwike semapenzi uye vasina kudzidza. Handina dambudziko rekukurukura nyaya iyi, asi ndichatotanga ndaongorora nharo dzinopesana.
Haugone kutenga zvombo zve automatic muUS, asi zvinongoshandiswa semi-automatic chete. AR-15, inowanzonzi "high-power" assault rifle, chaizvoizvo "ine simba shoma", uye i .223 caliber. Pfuti zhinji dzedeer dzine simba guru, semuenzaniso .270, .308 caliber dzakajairika. Kana uchizonyunyuta nezvepfuti, edza kunzwisisa nyaya idzi. Vanhu vazhinji vanopikisa pfuti, vasina ruzivo rwepfuti zvachose, vanogara muguta vachitarisa Piers Morgan. Une mafungiro ako, asi ita kuti ive munhu ane ruzivo.
Ndinotenda kuti unofanira kudzidza mutemo wepfuti. Unogona kutenga zvombo zve automatic. Sekuru vangu mugari weNavy uye vane zvombo zvakawanda. Unofanira kusaina hupenyu hwako kuti uzviwane, asi unogona.
Mike ari kuUtah uye nemadhora mazana matatu chete unogona kutenga rezinesi rekutenga zvombo zvinongoerekana zvagadzirwa!
Kuwedzera pakuoma kuita, kushandura semi-automatic kuita fully automatic imhosva huru. Kana dziri pfuti dzekuvhima nepfuti dzehondo, dzinenge dzese pfuti dzinobva muzvombo zvehondo. Bolt action, semi-automatic, dzinogona kupfura ka100 zvisinei nekuti dzine nhoroondo yehondo yakadii. Iwe unongodhonza chikonzero chepfuti yega yega.
Ndave ndichifarira mimhanzi yaWillie kwemakore, asi handifungi kuti kushandisa kwake mbanje nezvematongerwo enyika hazvina kunaka kana kuti mienzaniso yakanaka.