I te 9 i te pō nei, ka noho tahi a Piers Morgan me te kaiwaiata rongonui, a Willie Nelson, mō tētahi uiuinga motuhake i te wā matua e kapi ana i ngā mea katoa mai i te tarukino ki te ao tōrangapū.
E rua wiki i muri i te pōtitanga o te tau 2012, i whakaae a Nielsen kāore ia i haere ki te pōtitanga, engari i koa ia ki te kōwhiringa a te US:
"E harikoa ana ahau kua pōtitia anō ia (Barack Obama). Ki taku whakaaro he maha ngā mea hei painga mōna ki āna e pā nei. E whakapono ana ngā wāhine ki āna e kōrero nei. Ngā Mangu me ngā Hispanic me ngā Hispanic me ngā Hispanic me ngā wāhine. Ki te whakamahi koe i aua mea e toru, ka toa koe." Ki taku whakaaro ka toa a Obama, kāore ia e hiahia ki tētahi atu pōti, kua oti kē i a ia te tuitui."
E rima marama i muri i tōna huritau 80 tau, i kī te tangata neke atu i te 60 āna pukaemi whare pikitia i tipu ake ia i te taha o ngā pū, ā, kāore he raruraru ki te hopu manu. Heoi, ki tāna titiro, he rerekē rawa te kōrero mō ngā pū whakaeke kaha-teitei:
"Kāore au i te mōhio me aha ahau ki tētahi pū ka taea te pupuhi 100 ngā wā," te kōrero a Nelson ki te kaihautū o "Piers Morgan Tonight". "Kāore au e whakaae ki tēnā. Ki taku whakaaro me whakahaere ake. Ki taku whakaaro he maha ngā pū - kāore he take mō ngā tāngata whenua kia mau i ēnā. Mā te ope taua ēnā."
Mātakihia te riipene ataata, ka whakarongo ki tētahi uiuinga me tētahi kāore e hono ana ki tētahi rōpū tōrangapū, nā te mea, e ai ki tā Groucho Marx, "Kāore au e hiahia ki te whakauru atu ki tētahi karapu ka taea e au te whakauru atu." -– » i runga i Twitter Whāia a Piers Morgan i tēnei pō
Kua pānui au i ngā pou e rite ana ki te whakahaere pū, ngā wā tatari, ngā tirotiro papamuri, me te tango i ngā patu me ngā maheni "hōia" me te 30 ki te 100 rauna matā i raro i te Whakatikanga Tuarua. Ae, he maha ngā tāngata e whai mana ana ki te pupuri i tētahi pū (ehara i te pū whakaeke), engari he tohu tō taua mana ki te kī ko ngā tāngata "whai tohu" anake (pānuihia he tangata whai whakaaro, kāore i te hara, me te hunga kua tino whakangungua) ka taea te whakamahi i taua tika. Mena ka aukatia ngā patu taumata hōia, he aha ngā kaitautoko pū matapo e whakaaro aunoa ai kei te mōrearea tō rātou tika ki te mau pū? He tika ngā tāngata takitahi ki te mau "patu" ehara i te pū mīhini, bazooka, mota, me ētahi atu. Me pakeke te kōrero i konei kia mōhio ai rātou ki te raruraru o te horapa o ngā pū i roto i ngā ringa hē. Ko ngā mahi hei whakarite kia uru atu ngā tāngata whai tohu ki ngā pū kāore e whakaatu ana i te "whakatikatika Whakatikanga Tuarua" atu i ngā ture e whakahaere ana i te tika ki te pupuri me te taraiwa i tētahi motuka. Kāore he tangata whai tohu i whakakahoretia he raihana taraiwa, he mana rānei o te motuka nā te tukanga e hiahiatia ana hei pupuri me te taraiwa. Tukua te Whakatikanga Tuarua kia okioki - he mea nui rawa atu Ko te nuinga o ngā mema o te NRA e pai ana ki ngā mana whakahaere pakari ake mō te pupuri pū. Kāore tētahi o ēnei tāngata e kite ana i ngā "kaitukino wairua" e tango ana i ō rātou mana pēnei i a koe.
Tom J: Ehara i te mea he whakama te hunga whakamahi tarukino katoa pērā i a Willie. Kāore koe e pōti, kāore hoki e amuamu (mai i ngā pōtitanga ā-rohe tae noa ki te perehitini).
He whakama? Tēnā whakamārama mai. Kāore he raruraru ki a ia mō tana kai paipa. I mea ia me whakaaetia te tangata ki te pupuri pū. Ki te kore koe e tīmata ki te kōrero mō ngā pū aunoa. Kāore he take kia whai pū ngā tāngata whenua. He whakama?
Kāore he pere kotahi i NYC, i Oak City, e hia ngā tāngata i momi hikareti i te wā i pahū ai ngā poma, i pakaru rānei aua waka rererangi i aua whare! Ehara te raruraru ki te rangatira i te pū, ko te whakamahinga o ngā patu hōia hei whakamate i te tangata, te whai wāhi rānei ki te whakamahi i aua patu hei whakamate i te tangata me whiu mate, ki te kitea he porangi te tangata, me mahi kia kitea rā anō a Compton e mate hinengaro ana, ā, i te wā e tupu ana taua āhuatanga, me noho koe i roto i te whare herehere mō te toenga o tō oranga, ka maka atu i ngā kī!!!!!!!!!!!!
Tēnā koa, kōrero mai ki a mātou te wā whakamutunga i tukinotia ai koe, ā, i hiahia koe ki tētahi pū hei whakatika. He kōrero whakamere tēnei.
Ki te roa ake tō oranga i te kotahi hēkona, i runga i te tauine ao, ka pāngia koe e te tukino. Heoi, ko ētahi pirau he iti ake te makutu, ā, he rite ki te hinganga pouri i ētahi atu. Ina hoki, ko wai me rapu kai? Kia tuturi tātou katoa ki te whakato purapura. Ka taea e ngā hoariri te whakaputa uri i a tātou e haere ana; i a tātou e momona ana, e momi pōturi ana i te taru. I konei, kāore he mauahara tūturu i waenganui i ahau, te rākau, me tō tātou rangatira; te hōiho ngenge. Kāore he take kia mārire inaianei. Ki te wāhi e whakapono ana ia, kei te toto hoki tōna herekoretanga. Nō reira, momi mēnā ka kite koe, inā koa kāore koe e kite - ahakoa he pupuhi noa iho. Ki te mea me whiu rakau e te poaka whenua, ka taea e koe te kī he aha te nui o te rakau ka whiua e te poaka whenua.
Āe… i hiahia hoki ahau ki te aro atu ki ētahi whakautu pai. E Thor, i roto i te kaupapa, e whakaae ana ahau ki a koe. Pērā anō hoki mō te ture (i nāianei). Waihoki ko ō tātou Matua Whakatū, i mōhio, inā koa i muri i te pakanga ki te iwi me te ope taua tino kaha o te Ao i taua wā, me kaha tonu ngā tāngata ki te tiaki i a rātou anō mēnā ka puta anō.
Me whakamahi pū, me tētahi atu patu rānei hei tiaki i a koe anō mēnā ka whakaekea. Ki taku whakaaro, kāore he ture mō ngā pū, mō tētahi atu patu rānei ā muri ake nei, ahakoa kei reira, kāore rānei.
Ināianei, kei te hiahia hoki ahau ki te kōrero mō ētahi atu i tino atawhai ki te mahi pera. 1) helio.- Te āhua nei, kāore anō koe kia arotakehia e te IRS!, 2) Buzz - kāore koe i kite i te utu? Tino pouri! me 3) Terrance.- He mahi toi! Ko te mea anake ka taea e au te kī ko taku hiahia he pēhanga S*0) Kei te momi hikareti koe! E tino hiahia ana ahau ki ētahi! Kāore hoki i ea. E hiahia ana ahau ki te whakatō hoki.
Ka taea e au te whakaaro ka whakaae koe he hunga e noho ana i muri i te Ārai Rino e tukinotia ana? I whakamātau rātou i te tutu ā-pū i ngā tau 1940 me 1950 – kāore he wāhi hei haere atu mā rātou engari ko te mate. I hinga te Taiepa o Berlin ehara i te mea nā ngā pū, engari nā te mana o te iwi – he whakahē rangimārie ki te whenua. Pānuihia a Gandhi.
Kāore te taiepa i hinga nā te pū? Kāore rawa! Kāore he tangata whenua o te Rūhia he pū āna. "Nā ngā kaupapa here kaha mō te whakahaere pū ka ārai i tēnei. Ehara i te mea i aukati i te pupuri pū a te hunga hara o Ruhia. He mea whakamīharo, kāore ngā kaihara e aro ki te ture.
I tua atu, kāore te taiepa i hinga nā te mea he "whakahē rangimārie". I hinga te taiepa nā te hinganga o ngā Sōviete. Kāore i nui ā rātou moni, ā rātou mana rānei hei whakahaere i tō rātou emepaea, ā, nā tēnei i taea ai e te iwi, ahakoa te whakakorenga o ā rātou patu, te whakakeke angitu.
Hei tāpiri atu ki tēnā, ki taku whakaaro i kī a Gandhi, "I roto i ngā tini kino o te mana whakahaere o Peretānia i Īnia, ka kiia e te hītori ko te tangohanga o ngā pū mai i te whenua katoa te mea pōuri rawa atu."
@algol Ahakoa te korenga o *ētahi* whakakeke ā-pū, ehara i te mea he kōwhiringa hē te ariā o te whakakeke ā-pū. He maha hoki ngā whakakeke ā-pū kua angitu. Kaua e whiriwhiri i ngā kōrero pakiwaitara hei tautoko i te whakaaro pōti i mua i te kōwhiringa, nā te mea he rite tonu te maha o ngā kōrero pakiwaitara hei tautoko i ngā kereme a te taha kē.
@Buzz: Kāore tō kōrero mō te tukino whaiaro i ngā mana patu e whakahē ana i te kereme he taputapu pai, he taputapu whai hua rānei te pupuri pū hei ārai i te tukino a te kāwanatanga (koinei te take katoa i whakaurua ai te Whakatikatika Tuarua ki te pire — — nā te mea kua mutu noa te iwi i tētahi whakakeke ā-pū ki te tukino a te kāwanatanga).
"Kei reira ngā pū hei tiaki i te tangata mai i ngā kaitukino". E hoa, ehara tēnei tūranga i te āhua o te Ture Tuarua – e kōrero ana mō ngā hōia whai patu pai – tirohia ngā hōia i roto i te papakupu, ā, kāore koe e kite i tētahi whakahua mō ngā rōpū takitahi e kī ana ko rātou te pā whakamutunga o te herekoretanga. Ki te hiahia te kāwanatanga ki te whakamahi i te kaha ki a koe, ka papakihia tō Winnie iti pērā i te waeroa. Kia tūturu. E tino mōhio ana ahau kei a koe he rūma o muri me te nui o te kai me te wai mō ngā marama e ono kia taea ai e koe te "ātete" i te mana tukino". He pai tonu te kāwanatanga ki te whakaeke i te tangata me te kore e whakamahi i te kaha, nō reira he aha rātou me whakararuraru ai? . Tēnā tukuna mai tō wāhitau kia taea ai e au te noho ki a koe mō ētahi marama, kia tiakina hoki ahau ina whakaekea tōku whenua e te kāwanatanga.
He hē te "tautohe" kāore he hua o ngā pū ki te mana whakahaere a te kāwanatanga/ope. Tirohia ngā mea e tupu ana i Rīpia – ngā AK47 me ngā pikapa ki ngā waka rererangi, ngā poma, ngā tāke me ngā ope taua a te kāwanatanga… ā, tirohia ko wai kei te hinga. Ko te whāinga kia whakakorea ngā patu o te taupori he rite tonu – kāore he huarahi tūturu hei ātete i te kāwanatanga.
Āe, ko te take anake i toa ai ngā kaiwhakakeke a Tom i Libya he āwhina nā te hononga o Amerika/Pākehā i whakamahi i ā rātou waka rererangi hou me ngā hōia ki te whakatinana i te rohe kore-rere i runga i te ope taua rangi iti rawa a Gaddafi. I whiwhi hoki ngā kaiwhakakeke i te maha o ngā kaiwhakarewa rōkete me ngā patu hōia mai i waho. Nā, ko wai ka āwhina i ngā kaipū mai i waho e whakaaro ana me whakatika rātou i tētahi rā ki te kāwanatanga o Amerika?
Ae, ka nui ngā mahi a DOPE māu. Mā tēnei ka taea e koe te tuku i ngā pukaemi 60 (he mea porangi tēnei), te tito waiata ataahua (kāore e taea e tētahi tangata tawhito te mahi), ā, kia noho hei tangata tika.
Heoi anō, e Tom J.! Kāore au e māharahara he aha tēnei koroua pōti e kore ai e pōti. He aha ia i whakaaro ai kei te māharahara tetahi ki tāna mahi? Kāore au i pānui i te tuhinga, kāore hoki i mātaki i te ataata, ā, kāore au i te whakaaro ki te pēnā. Ka noho tawhiti atu ahau i tēnei POS i ngā wā katoa e taea ana.
Me whakamātau pea koe, e Tom, ā, ka kite tāua mēnā ka puta mai tētahi mea mohio i roto i tōna mangai. E mārama ana kāore te kore kai hikareti e āwhina i a koe.
Kāore rawa he aha ki ahau ngā whakaaro o Willie Nelson mō te whakahaere pū! He aha te mea e hira ake ai tōna whakaaro i tōku?
Whakama rawa atu koe e Willie! E miriona ngā tāngata huri noa i te ao e tuku ana i ō rātou oranga i ia rā, kia whiwhi ai rātou i ngā kōwhiringa e whakaarohia ana e tātou, e ngā Amerikana, he mea noa iho.
Ko tāu tikanga he whiriwhiri ki te whakapuaki i ō whakaaro? E whakama ana koe ki a Willie mō te whakamahi i ana mana i homai e te Atua.
Ki te taea e te kāwanatanga te whakakore i te Whakatikatika Tuarua, kāore he aha te Whakatikatika Tuatahi.. he mea nui ki a ia, ki te whakaaro rānei o tetahi atu.
Ae – ko te tohu whakamutunga e pai ana ki te NRA he tino pai ki ngā patu aunoa. Mā te whakamahi i tētahi, i patua e ia tana wahine o mua, tana tamāhine, te hoa tāne a tana tamāhine me tā rāua pēpi 16-marama te pakeke.
E tū ana a JT Ready, he Marine o mua, mō te tūranga sheriff o Pinar County, ā, he mema ia nō te US Border Guard me te Minuteman Program, e whakaahuatia ana e rātou he rōpū whakahē manene ture kore, e ai ki te Arizona Republic. Nō te National Socialist Movement anō hoki ia, he whakahaere he tirohanga whakakeke mā, e ai ki te nūpepa.
Nō reira, kāore e taea e ia te patu i aua tāngata ki ngā patu kore-aunoa? Āe… kua taea e ia te patu i a rātou ki te maripi. Me aukati rānei tātou i ngā maripi? Ko ngā tāngata kino te kaipatu, ehara i te pū. Ka taea e rātou tēnei ki tetahi mea.
Kāore ngā maripi i te rite te kaha ki ngā pū, ā, he nui ake te kaha o ngā patu hau-aunoa ki te patu tangata i ngā pū hurihuri. Ko te aukati i ngā patu hau-aunoa he mahi ka taea e ngā pōti whakaaro pai te mahi hei whakamātau ki te whakaiti i te rongonui o ngā kaikōhuru papatipu porangi.
He tautohe kino, e Shane. Ko te hunga mataku e mahi ana i te kohuru nui e pai ake ana ki ngā patu aunoa. Me whakatata atu rātou ki te patunga me te maripi. Tirohia whakamuri te hītori o te hunga mataku e whakahē ana i ēnei mahi whakarihariha. Mā ngā patu whakaeke aunoa ka māmā ake.
Kia pēhea te tawhiti ka taea e James Holmes te haere i roto i te whare pikitia o Colorado me te pū kore-aunoa? E hia ngā tāngata e mate ana ki tō whakaaro?
Kāore he take whaitake kia puritia e te iwi whānui ngā patu aunoa, ā, ki te mea ko te aukati i aua patu he iti ake te hunga ka mate i ēnei pupuhitanga porangi, ko te aukati i aua patu te mea whaitake hei mahi.
Ae, e mōhio ana ahau ehara ngā pū i te patu tangata, engari ko te tangata te kaipatu tangata, engari kāore tō tātou tika ki te pupuri pū aunoa i te mea nui atu i tō tātou ora.
@pritka: Āhua-Aunoa: He pū e pupuhi ana i te kotahi matā mō ia kumenga, ā, e whakamahi ana i tētahi momo utu aunoa (whakahoki, hau, mahi takirua rānei). He āhua-aunoa ngā pū hurihuri mahi takirua (te nuinga o ngā pū hurihuri hou). Hei tāpiri, ko ngā pū hurihuri hou he maha ngā wā ka utaina ki ngā matā nui, e whai hua ana ki ngā ūnga kore-pū i ngā tawhiti poto. "Ka whakamahia ngā Pū Whakaeke" mō ngā matā pū, ā, ki te whakamahia ngā matā hōia, kua hangaia hei patu i ngā ūnga pū i tawhiti. Mā tēnei ka whakaiti i tō rātou whakamate nā te āhua kore-whakarerekē o ngā matā.
Kāore he patu aunoa a Sherlock Holmes. He pū AR-15 ā-iwi tāna, he pū raiwhara haurua-aunoa .223, me te maheni Century 100-mahanga. Ka whakaitihia e te maheni 100-mahanga tōna pai ki te whakataurite ki te maheni 20, 30-mahanga paerewa nā te mea ka mau te tauira maheni hē i muri i te 17 mahanga.
E hiahia ana hoki ahau ki te whakaaro mehemea he pū raifuru whiriwhiri tāna, kāore e tino whakamatea taua pupuhi. Tuatahi, ka whakanui ake te pupuhi aunoa o tēnei pū i te tūponotanga o te aukati, inā koa mēnā he hapa te maheni. Tuarua, ki te mau ia ki te matā kotahi i mua (17), ka iti iho i te hēkona tana pupuhi aunoa tonu; he iti rawa te wā hei horomia te tangata ki a ia.
He tino kuware a Holmes mō tana whiriwhiri pū mena ka nui rawa te mate o te tangata ka pā ki a ia. E wehi ana te katoa i ngā pū pango, engari ehara te .223 i te matā tino kaha ki te patu. He maha ngā pupuhi hei patu i te ūnga tangata. Heoi, kei a Holmes anō hoki tētahi pū pupuhi papu-mahi 12-gauge kua whakakiia ki te 00 buckshot, me tētahi pū pītara haurua-aunoa 2 Colt M1911 kua whakakiia ki te 0.45 ACP. Ka taea e ēnei āhuatanga e rua te whakaputa i te nui o te cavitation me te toto e ngaro ana i te kotahi pupuhi pai, engari ko te pupuhi 12-gauge 00-gauge ka pupuhi i te 8, i te 9 rānei ngā matā, ia matā tata ki te rite ki te matā pū pītara .33.
Ina hoki, he pōrearea te whakaaro katoa. I hikoi ia ki te whare tapere, i pupuhi i te paoa, i pupuhi i ētahi matā ki te rangi, kātahi ka whakarewa i te whakaeke. He ūnga tuwhera ia i roto i te 3 ki te 5 hēkona; he nui te wā hei kukume i te patu, te uta anō mēnā e tika ana, te tiki i te karu tirotiro, me te kukume i te keu. Te āhua nei ko te wāhanga "atamai" anake o tana mahere ko te whakaeke i tētahi rohe kua kīia ki ngā tāngata whai ture kia tangohia ngā patu. Āe.
E ngā kuware, kāore a James Holmes i whakamahi, ā, kāore anō hoki i whakamahi i tētahi patu aunoa. I mua i tō koutou ngana ki te tautohetohe ki a rātou, kia mārama ki ētahi mea. Mēnā ka karangahia rātou e tētahi he "kōpiri" 100 anō, tera pea ka hemo ahau i te kata nui, ā, ka meinga rātou kia ahua kuware, kia kore mātauranga hoki. Kāore he raruraru mōku ki te kōrero mō te take, engari ka rangahauhia e au ngā tautohetohe whakahē i mua.
Kāore e taea te hoko i ngā pū aunoa i te US, engari ko ngā mea haurua-aunoa anake. Ko te AR-15, e mōhiotia whānuitia ana ko te pū whakaeke "mana-teitei", he "mana-iti" te āhua, ā, he .223 te rahi. He kaha ake te nuinga o ngā pū tia, hei tauira, he mea noa ngā .270, .308 te rahi. Ki te amuamu koe mō ngā pū, ngana ki te mārama ki ēnei take. Ko te nuinga o te hunga e whakahē ana i ngā pū, kāore nei i te mōhio ki ngā pū, e noho ana i te tāone nui e mātakitaki ana i a Piers Morgan. Kei a koe ō whakaaro, engari me waiho hei tangata whai mātauranga.
Ki taku whakaaro me ako koe i te ture pū. Ka taea e koe te hoko patu aunoa. He tangata whenua nō te Navy taku matua keke, ā, he maha āna. Me haina koe i tō oranga katoa kia whiwhi ai koe i aua patu, engari ka taea e koe.
Kei Utah a Mike, ā, mō te $300 noa iho ka taea e koe te hoko raihana hei pupuri me te hoko i ngā patu aunoa!
Haunga te uaua ki te mahi, he hara nui te huri i te pū haurua-aunoa ki te pū tino-aunoa. Mō ngā pū hopu manu me ngā pū hōia, tata katoa ngā hoahoa pū i ahu mai i ngā patu hōia. Ko te mahi pū, haurua-aunoa, ka taea e rātou te pupuhi 100 ngā wā ahakoa he aha te hītori hōia. Me kume noa koe i te keu mō ia pupuhi.
He maha ngā tau e pai ana ahau ki ngā waiata a Willie, engari ki taku whakaaro ehara tana whakamahinga o te tarukino me ana mahi tōrangapū i te kōwhiringa pai, i te tauira pai rānei.